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Permalink Reply by Helen Hutton on June 12, 2012 at 8:09pm

I would like to add my opinion on this,i believe in reincarnation,i also believe that each life we are met with the love ones of that life ,and another life we are met with those loved ones of that era,i also beleve if for instance you had two or three husband or wives,the one who will meet you is the one that you had a spiiritual agreement ,or contract with.if there was no reincarnation what do we do with ourelves,?as energy beings.live in spirit for eternity,i dont think so,Jesus also says we are eternal and in this body we only live once, We all came here to  experience emotion,to connect to each other and learn about unconditional love, grace rightessness and forgivness,and we will keep coming back until we get it right,

hugs Helen

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Permalink Reply by PAULA KASTELEC on June 17, 2012 at 8:45pm

So---In this body we only live once...OK,,,We can still come back and live in another one...I believe in reincarnation..This helps me out ...Thank you very much...Helen

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Permalink Reply by 3w09tz1z3j67f on June 18, 2012 at 4:54pm

     I would like to answer some of the questions which I think are different than your answers.

I do not believe in shape shifting as I believe that some humanoids which were created were half human and half whatever and I think this is where the shape shifting myths came from.

I believe we are energy. Everything can conduct energy, even rocks. That is why it is said that some people are energy vampires in that they can drain energy from others. I think it is just negative energy whether it be radiating out of a human or radiating from some toxic chemical is what drains the positive energy flow in our body and blocks it. That is when we get sick.

The light that is God is the energy. It is all around us and inside of us and that energy is unconditional love because that is our state of being at our purest form. Imagine humans being born on a pristine planet like Earth and in this paradise or pure environment the humans would naturally be flowing with unconditional love radiating out and back at them. This energy is what plants can feel and stimulates the beauty and we learn to breathe from the plants because of the fragrances. The crystals in the Earth can store and emit this energy but they also contain various properties to stimulate the various parts of the body. In my case, I was raised near crystals with the blue energy or throat chakra and I talk way too much.

    I think when we mess with Mother Nature then we mess up ourselves internally. When we unleash what is in nature or destroy nature then we are destroying ourselves because we are so interconnected to everything through these energies. We are a product of our environments. The Earth did not have deserts. Deserts were made because gods/kings dropped  nuclear weapons on the Earth in search of gold. Have you heard of the Golden Age? Where do you think all the gold came from and who were the people working in the mines with the mercury to extract the gold from the embedded rocks? We were created by the aliens/kings/gods as slaves to work in the gold mines. After they dropped the bombs and melted the ice caps within about one week, then they found more gold in a different form, the nugget form and gold became easier to find. They had spaceships and they came and conquered Earth. I do not know exactly how many years they were here before they created us. But the structures they built all around the world were built in 10,500 BC facing all of the constellations from which they came from and they created the 7 root races of man. They formed us in clay jars made from the Earth and that is why we have these elements in our DNA. The gods/kings/aliens/star people did not have this connection to the Earth and they did not know this unconditional love energy as a result so they had no problem coming here and destroying the Earth through mining and blowing up the planet. Today we can see the desert glass and the radiation in these areas which are below sea level like the Dead Sea. I am kind of upset with what they did but at least one of the kings saved Noah and  Cain's descendants survived and they are the Native American tribes. I mean the kings/gods are our ancestors because we are connected through DNA with them and they created us but that doesn't mean I do not think they weren't dysfunctional and had mental illness. I did not like seeing their genetic experiments. Some people are still worshipping them as God like in the Bible, old testament. Some people are channeling them (as they are ghosts) and think they are real aliens waiting in space ships to take us home. I can see the reality and truth because I have the gift of research and intuition and I know the original history and how all the myths came into being and what they mean and what all the symbols mean. I know how advanced their technologies were to build these huge structures around the world and how they communicated and how they left all the codes to our DNA. People have taken bits and pieces of information and have expanded on them and now we see them as the different religions. But this is all man made stuff because that is how parents would pass on knowledge/history to their children in the days before writing and books. They made up stories and took parts of the real story but changed it into things a child would more easily remember. On the other side, (I call the other side the place we go when we die) we are still living in the reality of our imaginations but for some of us we think that we go back to the energy we know from being in nature, like in my reality. I think if we want to understand ourselves then we need to know the real history of our origins not just the myths which to me are deception but based in truth. Parents changed some of the horrors of the stories so as not to frighten their children but at the same time they wanted to warn their children to protect them. Like the story of Little Red Riding Hood. The original story is pure horror but the watered down version is much better although based in horrible truth. 

     We make decisions based on lies so how can we be making good decisions? Intent is the whole mystery here. If we are living in a lie but have good intent then everything is great. If we are still living in a lie but have bad intent then that is how our lives will be in our reality on the other side. We make our own realities. I think spiritual enlightenment is our natural state of being. It makes us see truth in everything. So who in this world would want to distract us from being spiritually awakened and see what they are doing? Do we know what we are being distracted with but wrapped up as a beautiful package? Like Pandora's box. The outside may be beautiful but I can see the truth in the box and I want to mark it as RETURN TO SENDER because I will not accept negative energy that kills even if it is wrapped up in pretty wrapping.  I am kind of surprised that I know without a doubt that the people who are running the world absolutely know all of this information but I just wonder why we are not being told this stuff. We go to wars over this stuff.

On the other side we can pretty much go anywhere if we are at the higher levels except if we are ghosts then we are tied into the Earth plane and pretty much living in denial. The human mind cannot grasp the idea of infinity because it is never ending as there is always something beyond. We can go anywhere in our thoughts so we could choose to merge into the light and become part of the one energy there or we could keep our individual gifts and work on creating new things to share with mankind on the Earth. I am not sure if I want to keep my self and my gifts to create and share new things and come down to the 5th dimension to help humans or if I just want to give up my identity or gifts and merge with the light. There are different worlds or realms and some are about negative energy and competition and I definitely would not go there because I have a difficult enough time as it is dealing with the negative energies on Earth. In this realm I would think that people would be trying to outdo each other and I believe sex would be happening. I feel like this is the realm of the lower chakras in the body. The higher chakras or the higher parts of ourselves would not be seen in this reality.

The other side reflects our reality here. All of my chakras are open including my third eye so in my reality I would not be living in a place where only the root chakra of survival and basic instinct were present. We live in our own realities. That is why I do not believe in religions because they are strictly made up of the positive AND negative energies of humans. They say do not kill but then we think it is okay to go to war. Maybe it is okay to kill people on Wednesdays but not Mondays. When is it okay to kill again? I forgot. Is this a selfish negative human agenda or is the unconditional loving Creator energy wanting us to kill each other. Hmmmmm?? I only believe in us at our natural state of being as the positive energy or the God the Creator energy. This is just my reality. Every person has their own reality but I wonder if people would change their views if they became more spiritually enlightened especially given the fact that most people do not know our history. This history is not taught in schools. Spirituality and awakening and ascension are not taught in schools because we are taught that this is not the norm. Well I think this is the norm. I do not even believe in all these labels. The norm could be cannibalism which in our history was a reality. So I do not think the norm is even valid as it could be composed of negative energy which it is in fact today. The further a person passes through each veil of ascension the more crazy people will perceive that person. A person who is already a spiritual person who has a near death experience will go through at least up to the 8th veil. This is just from what I have tried to read about but I do not know for sure how many veils there are. Most people cannot see past the first veil.

When I crossed over to the other side my reality was the bright light and unconditional love energy. I saw my past life flash before my eyes that I had been a soldier who had died in a war and then at that point I saw what my purpose had been to come here to the Earth to try to change the negative energy of war and to protect the image of women and change the perception of people in the way men and women are portrayed in society. The way it showed up in me was the unconscious terror of war. I never really knew why I had an intense fear of war. Fear and hate and negative energies hold us back from being all that we can be. It chains us and imprisons us. I think given the negative energies of the Earth radiating from humans and the destruction of the Earth it is very difficult for us to connect with the positive energy and let it flow in us for us to be spiritual beings.

When I crossed over to the higher realms, I lost my memory of the Earth. I believe that our minds are like computers and we are connected to the magnetic grid of the Earth. So I felt like the further I went up then the more I lost my memory of my life here. People today are destroying the ozone layer intentionally and causing global warming for selfish reason. They are drooling at what they believe will be treasures hidden under the ice caps and plus the ozone keeps the magnetic balance of the Earth. Once the ozone is depleted then the magnetic force of the Earth starts traveling and it goes out into space and then starts affecting space. This affects the migration patterns in animals and they get disorientated and they lose their way and end up getting beached on the shore or they end up flying off course. We can see the magnetic field leaving the Earth in the plasma which is seen as the Northern Lights. Very beautiful colors but now it has traveled and can be seen in places and this is a warning to me. The reason people are destroying the atmosphere is for greed or selfishness. They are allowing the magnetism of the Earth to travel out so the spirits of the past can plug into and remember their lives here and share the information about the nuclear weapons and space travel etc. This is how much of our technology today has been accessed through channeling these beings. Many people do not care that we are destroying human life or animal life because the goal is to get more power and resources for more money.  I would caution them that messing with nature has bad consequences like unleashing things like the AIDS virus or plagues. Who knows what else is under the ice caps? It is the story of Pandora's box. It is a warning. That is why I am shocked that cults in New Zealand believe that this is a spiritual thing that if they destroy the atmosphere then they will lift the "veil" and connect with Heaven or God. I just cannot even believe that people will follow any lie or untruth blindly. Having my third eye opened so much makes me sad at some things but in a way I am glad to know the truth because I am able to make solutions.

What are the distractions for us to be good slaves and keep us under control in the past? Especially that we were created from Homus Erectus and the DNA of the alien kings? Well we did not have their brain capacity at that time so we looked at them like gods. They had all the knowledge wealth and power and they fought over power as they had many women and many children and everyone was trying to figure out their rank in status as to this half brother and this half sister and all the hate and animosity because the Father had slept with so many women. We were created to mass produce so we were given wine, women and song as the distractions to keep us happily working in the mines. This is where the myth of hell or the underworld came from as some people were locked down there as punishment. The gates of Hell?? Anyway, today we have sex, drugs and rock and roll to distract us. The gods would strip down naked and physically fight for the throne. This is how we got the idea to feed the people to the lions. It was like a sport. Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden for rebelling. They were supposed to run around naked and produce many offspring but I think they got spiritually enlightened by the tree of knowledge and then the gods said Eve was stupid for listening to an evil snake and Adam was stupid for listening to a woman. So the gods put animosity between men and women as a control and they blamed all of their negative behavior on an Angel called Lucifer because he was the highest Angel assigned as Adams guardian angel. He refused to be a guardian angel because he did not trust that humans would be able to make good decisions without interference given they had free will to choose negative or positive energy. So the gods got mad at Lucifer and that is how the Satan myth started. The evil snake was also seen as Satan and the gods wanted to cover their "deeds". They were wrathful and did many things to us and they told the people it was Satan or maybe the people just believed this. I do not see the unconditional love energy of the Creator in these gods and they were not spiritually enlightened people as I can see by all of the things they did. We are still being controlled by humans in the same way and nothing has ever changed except for the descendents of Cain who were the Native American Indians but they still believed in the Star People or gods. They respect them as the ancestors. I am trying to respect them but I am kind of upset because of the human suffering and the fact that we have to live in disillusionment. When they are channeled by these people who belong to the Great White Brotherhood then the messages just reek of the gods in what they are saying. They say things like, "We see that you are enjoying the Manna we provided for you." I know they are either ghosts or spirits who still have not been enlightened because they are still defending their innocence when they say still that they do not know why the Earth got destroyed and they were sitting there from the vantage point of space watching Noah sail around. The way they warned Noah of the flood was by standing outside of his home at night and the god pretended to have a conversation with another person about the flood so Noah could overhear it. That was the way that the King or god got away with saving Noah because he told the other kings that Noah must have overheard the conversation. It was all planned out ahead of time. Humans were supposed to be completely destroyed in the Flood. The king helped Noah build the Ark in 7 days. The bombs melted the ice caps. Noah had 4 sons and only 3 of his sons decided to go. Noah lost a son and a daughter in law in the flood. When Noah landed in Turkey in the mountains then out of Noah's clan came the first child born with blond hair and blue eyes.

We do not have any concept of time on the other side as this is only a reality on Earth as we have 24 hours in a day marked by the Sun and the Moon. I would not imagine we would know when to eat or sleep because this is part of our physical body. We as just energy beings would not need to do this but we may be in the habit of doing these things as they are part of our survival here on Earth. The other side is a different reality. I did not have an attachment to anyone here as my memory only activates when it is plugged into the magnetic grid or flow of energy. If I came down closer to the magnetism of the Earth then this would activate my memory and I would remember my life down here at that point. Ghosts are on the level of the Earth plane and they are still plugged into the grid. They think they are still living in their own time because they still have their memory. They can see what we do and they are aware of us. Some people on Earth are aware of ghosts. But they are not spiritually enlightened and they are living in that reality. Angels or spirits who have crossed over the higher veils can come down to the 5th dimension which is about 3 feet above the Earth plane then they are able to still plug into the grid.

I can understand the delusion of the gods/kings of them believing that they are still in that period of time. I think they are ghosts which are being channeled for information. I understand why they are telling humans to destroy the Earth. I think they are bored over on the other side and their excitement comes when someone here dies and joins them on the other side. They say things like, "Dear ones, we are looking forward to you preparing for the shift so that you may join us in the new Earth, blah blah blah....The shift in the Earth is us destroying the atmosphere so that there will be another flood and disasters. We must be like a soap opera for them as they would be totally bored watching live in a paradise. They would want to change the channel I am sure. They had their chance on Earth and they did not use their gifts but instead were to me like spoiled brats who came down to a new play toy (the planet Earth) and created humans for their enjoyment but we were seen as like toy soldiers and play things. Maybe more like ants? They did not like seeing the birth defects from the exposures to the bad chemicals like gigantism or dwarfism or other defects and many of the people who were half human and half animal (those created by clay jars and in vitro fertilization) had unique defects like hermaphroditism etc. Those who were created in clay jars did not possess the qualities of being formed naturally in the presence of unconditional love and so they displayed aggressive characteristics and negative energies. They did take on more of the qualities of the surrogate mothers as seen in the progression of the genetic experimentation. Many of the surrogate volunteers I assume were virgins.

I am not as concerned about what is on the other side because I know what is on the other side. I am more concerned about what is going on in the world and how these entities are still trying to control the world and manipulating humans by deception. I woke up and smelled the coffee because I always took time to smell the roses along the way. I wish I was not only one of the 10% of the population of the world who is this enlightened which also puts me in a position of being labeled as mentally ill. I do not mean to be like a fire hose that is blasting information but I am supposed to be more like a trickle of information of a little at a time but the information is blasted at me so I do not know how to present it. I just try to open up peoples eyes to reality. They can choose to live in denial but I just hope the denial doesn't end up killing us all. I have big dreams for the world. The dream of paradise on Earth. We cannot have paradise like this on the other side. I like paradise and the garden of eden is for true love and the beauty of nature. I am a rebel and I want to take Earth back from the gods/kings and claim it so that I can live life away from the past dysfunction of some Earth conquerors. I do not want to be a play toy anymore. I want to be like Pinocchio and become a real boy except that I am a woman so maybe I would be like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz and I would remember that their is no place like home because somewhere over the rainbow looks good and all that but we can find happiness here on Earth........I am just saying..........The secret is the love for ourselves and that is our power.....We radiate the energy good or bad..........I can feel the energy and some people can see it or smell it or hear it.........This is a gift....We just need to find our gifts and they will be amped up with positive energy. The negative energy shuts it down or turns it off and then we are just half of a person. I do not want to have to live like that. I see this in the music video Jar of Hearts by Christina Perri in the special effects. I am actually surprised when I see the creations of spiritually enlightened people.

Here is a quote by Jimi Hendrix: When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.

I see all the spiritually enlightened people in the world and from our past and I recognize this connection and I understand the messages. They were all attacked constantly because of the blindness in the people and they were killed. I know that I will be attacked because I have been violently attacked. It is just the way it is. Jesus was nailed to a cross. It is a threat to those in power and I understand this. I am just kind of sad to see that just about everyone who did some pretty amazing things were found dead. They did not even stop at killing a President. I believe this sends a clear message. I was kind of shocked at first to read about this scientist or that scientist found dead or some say committed suicide who was clearly tied into some new technology. The people who make songs and art. The song only the good die young. I wish the positive energy would win but it is the very small minority. The unconditional love energy is power but also a big threat.  I am shocked at having my third eye opened actually. It was not what I grew up believing and being taught. The truth is hidden but I know who is running the show and I cannot believe they are still trying to control things. I feel like I am in an experiment half of the time like a lab animal but I want to be free and live in nature. Some of us did not get to realize the dream. I just want to write my book before I get into too much trouble again. Most of the time my computer shuts down when I talk of these things and I know it is no coincidence as my guardian angels do look out for me. They show me they are there. I do not even know if I will ever earn my wings. Being an Earth Angel is hard because every time I try to come out of the closet, the door keeps getting slammed on my wings so I think I will just stay in the closet and write a book and then try to come out again. Ouch.......Spiritual people have a sense of humor and they see things visually. I see the world differently or out of the box but I can see past the wrapping paper into the box too.

I think this may be way too much information so I will stop now. I think I will make up some questions too sometime. I always have questions. Is anyone else aware of all these things?

shining in the love and light

Jenneane

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Permalink Reply by Alan McDougall on June 18, 2012 at 7:28pm

Hi Jenneane,

Where did you get all this unknown information from?, some of it is similar to what I downloaded mentally from the Superconsciouness. God is a BEING not a light!

Blessings and light

Alan

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Permalink Reply by 3w09tz1z3j67f on June 18, 2012 at 10:46pm

Hi Alan,

   Well actually I have the gift of research and I get flooded with information. I had a calling from the angels in March of 2009 so that is when the information started flooding in. I do not know what to believe because everything in this world could be an illusion for all I know. I do not even necessarily like being a spiritually awakened person because I get obsessive about it but basically I read all of the ancient writings and there are many symbols and I found out that the Bible means more than what we think it means. Kind of hard to explain.

    I have read the Bible, the Koran, Hindu beliefs, Buddhism, Mormon, Jehovah's witnesses, Greek mythology, Egyptian mythology, Native American lore, Russian myths, Roman myths, the Kabbalah, the Sumerian tablets, Chinese mythology, Ethiopian lore, Zorastrianism, and I found the same people mentioned who are referring to the same people and events so maybe this is a coincidence that all of the stories are the same. Who knows? I read all of the channelers blogs and the entities they are channeling are all the same except for a few people who are just presenting their own opinions. I feel like it is too much of a coincidence. I thought God was an energy just because of my near death experience but my girlfriend had a near death experience and she saw herself as a five year old child riding a bike. So I assume we all have our image of God when we are around the age of a 5 year old child and for me I felt the energy of God in nature so I do not see the energy of nature as having a shape or form?? To me God is the life force in nature. I am assuming that the reality of a 5 year old is based on their experiences at that time but this is the crucial step we take in forming our image of God. I suppose if I would have even known what the Bible was or how Jesus was then I would have formed God in that reality. So I do not see how each person at the age of 5 could possibly hold the same image of God because some people think he is Buddha and some people think he is Mohammad and some people think he is Satan. If every single 5 year old was raised in exactly the same way then we would all have the exact same belief in God. I think that is amazing. I do not think I will understand why we make a decision about who or what God is at the age of 5?? I wonder if anyone out there could offer an explanation for this.

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Permalink Reply by Alan McDougall on June 19, 2012 at 12:39am

Hi Jenneane,

I see you are very well read and informed on esoteric knowledge far more than I am by the way.In the other thread where I said I repectfully disagree with you I really meant respectfully, that means I am admitting you might be right and I might be wrong.I was most definitely not trying to put you down or abuse you dear one!

By my saying God was not mindless light I meant that in my opinion while God is most likely composed of everlasting light, he/she/it is "Self Aware"

I share a love for science fiction with you!

Blessings and Light

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Permalink Reply by Lee Offenhauer on June 19, 2012 at 12:56am

Yes, I would hope that this site, of all sites, would not be a place where people argue with each other's descriptions or experiences of God, the other side, the Light, whatever. In this regard I don't believe there is a right and a wrong amongst sincere people. We each have had different experiences, unique to each of us and necessary for us at whatever "level" we are, to learn or see what we need to see in the way that we can best understand. I don't believe God is so stuck in an image that He (or She, or It, or Them) would refuse to adopt a particular form if it served a purpose.

The commonalities of our experiences are much more to the point than the apparent differences. When someone speaks of the Love they've experienced -- of the boundless, unconditional, unquestioning and 1,000 percent accepting Love that they were bathed in while in the heavenly realms -- that's how I recognize Truth. And I'm certain each of you who have experienced this as I have no exactly what I'm talking about. The differences are just interesting details that add a little spice to the main course.

Just my two cents. Peace and Love to all!

Lee

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Permalink Reply by 3w09tz1z3j67f on June 19, 2012 at 3:20am

Hi Alan,

   I am learning like everyone else and much of what I have learned about myself is from other people. The reason why I have read so much of these things was not just to know about things but it really was to find out what was happening to me because I couldn't explain half of the stuff that I was seeing and dreaming about. It basically lead me on a path. Now it seems like everything is just flowing especially if someone is asking me something or has a problem then the answers come to me and they just show up. Basically, we have to find our own ways but I hope it is about loving nature and being peaceful.

    The most important thing is that we are on the path and we took the first step. It is an adventure and I am still curious. I like learning about this stuff so much. I like science fiction so much and that is why I want to write a science fiction book. I do not want to have an ego about anything and I know you are being respectful and I do not know why I get sensitive but I think it is because it is difficult to share personal beliefs anyway. Like a window into the soul.It really exposes the inner workings of someone to be sure. I have to be more sweet so I have to practice. No wonder I keep thinking about sugar. Being spiritual is not as easy as they make it look. I think I drink way too much coffee. I am going to try meditation next.

shining in the love and light

Jenneane

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Permalink Reply by William R. Schuck on January 24, 2013 at 6:16pm

I do not know about the things of which you speak. Much makes sense from the various  spiritual perspective's. All I know in my limited capacity is that I am aware and that It all constantly changes. I cannot prove or disapprove anything. All I can do is to scratch the surface of a subject. I cannot know the inner essences of that subject because I am busy trying to understand myself.

This being said leads me to conclude that something really remarkable is taking place.Maybe we are all here sharing so as to improve our general understanding of our place in it all.

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Permalink Reply by William R. Schuck on January 24, 2013 at 6:00pm

If you want to experience it!

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Permalink Reply by timmy touze on February 16, 2013 at 12:41pm

in the afterlife in my opinion there are no physical properties, its like riding a wave of emotions.

Also i depending on if you have a good soul or not emotions will be different varying from emotions such as being in a dream or a nightmare. one which you cannot escape.

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