Comment by Debra Sartelle on October 30, 2011 at 7:25pm

Dear Mark, 

Your words ring true to me, as I have this faith, as well.  Without it, I am only me.  And, me, for the most part, is human.  It is only my faith which brings about a "supernatural" part of me.  Most everything I read, only confirms my belief.  Although, the writer may not support my beliefs, it is always just an added bit of information which makes my faith even stronger.  I agree, that it certainly depends on which audience we write to, as to our favor or disdain.  Everyone has an opinion, but even worse, we have an ego to go with it. lol  Sadly, when the ego gets involved, it kinda takes away from the message.  Have you ever noticed that?  There is no understanding to my own "understanding"; it goes frolicking along in its own playground.  I have my own "boundaries", in which I may agree to an idea, but only because I can paste it onto my own. lol  Sometimes, there are no definitions, no scientific data, no historical reviews, etc., to describe what I know and feel inside.  There may be a book I read many years ago, with total confusion and misunderstanding, that I can read now, with love and compassion.  Life has a way of changing how we view "words".  To me, the "words" are only a part of the book; it is the story itself that bears significance.  Words can injure; words can heal.  And, given time, words can even take on different meaning, as our understanding matures.  So, I am with you on this, my friend.  How complex we humans are!! hehehe  I am also thankful that I have been shown this wonderful way; it brings me such comfort in difficult times.  Perhaps, we seem foolish, but that's okay by me.  I can handle it. lol

Love to You, My Friend!!

Debra

Comment by Paul Corson on October 31, 2011 at 5:26pm

Dear Mark,

 

I was deeply moved  by your honestly regarding your "wavering" faith. It seems that the intellect, your intellect, is hard pressed to accept an infinite creative entity, a something, that is beyond and defiies reason.

 

But what if rational information was presented that would satisfy the intellect's need for "proof." In that case the anxiety would be eclipsed, yes?. And you would be united in mind and spirit.

 

 love from Paul 

Comment by Lee Offenhauer on November 1, 2011 at 1:45am

Thanks for sharing that Mark, it was nicely put, and something I'm sure we all can relate to. We can all be petty at times. But being aware of it has tendency to cure it, because though you may have certain thoughts, if you know they may be untrue or prejudicial, you'll never give them the full consent required for them to become an action. I believe that awareness, self acceptance and forgiveness is key here.

Peace to you,

Lee

Comment by Mark Dohle on November 1, 2011 at 7:20pm

Thanks everyone for your kind and helpful comments.  I think this world we live in is made in such a way that we almost have to seek for answers.  Doubt is part of that, it is a spur that causes the search to deepen, or to give up I guess.

 

peace
mark

Comment by Bill LaPietra on November 7, 2011 at 11:06am

I also am a person of faith.  I don't think it's childish at all.  I think that every particle of creation speaks to the existence of the Creator, and the beautiful and sepectacular inter-relatedness of everything in creation speaks to what the Creator is like.  To argue that there is no Creator, in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary,  requires an explanation that becomes so completely implausible as to be silly. Science in no way refutes the idea of a Creator, in fact, science only tells us that our Creator is even more magnificent than we previously imagined. 

 

I hear the word faith tossed about quite a bit.  I'm always stuck by the difference between faith and idle opinion.  Faith is something one lives, not an opinion one recites. 

 

Doubt is our Creator's gift to us. He does not force us to believe.  By allowing us to choose to believe, and to live our faith, he creates the possibility for us to give perhaps the only thing we could possibly give to him, which is our will. Even people whohave the most profound mystical experience have to choose to believe or not.

Comment by Mark Dohle on November 7, 2011 at 12:48pm

Bill, thank you for your thoughtful comment, I really like how you stated the reality of faith, and yes, it is something lived out.

 

Peace
mark

Comment by Mark Dohle on November 7, 2011 at 12:50pm

Joe, I agree with you, but for those of us who have not been there, then it is faith that deepens as life progresses is our gift from the Creator.

 

Peace
mark

Comment by Bill LaPietra on November 7, 2011 at 6:23pm

rudi,

 

unless you are the site administrator and you've been assigned to police which topics are relevant and appropriate you should confine your comments to threads that interest you.  many who've had an nde come back more humble more accepting of others and where they happen to be in their journey.  maybe there is a thread on that topic here.

Comment by Perry Steinbach on November 7, 2011 at 9:42pm

Rudi, i know what you mean! Good point! Never looked at it that way!

Comment by Lee Offenhauer on November 7, 2011 at 9:55pm

Rudi, I love you but with all due respect, I think you are way over-reacting here. Mark has always been totally humble and honest about his faith and has never tried to convince anyone that they should envision the sacred as he does. I don't feel he deserves your condemnation. I support him 100%. He has never been pushy about it, never been derogatory to anyone else's opinions, and always just put his thoughts out there with sincerity and humility, always knowing that words are inadequate to the task of expressing this realm.

Every single one of us are "experiencers." Why? Because we all experience life, and our experience of life leads us to ask big questions, which bring big answers, which inevitably prove to be partial incorrect, at which point we go back to asking the big questions, and on and on. At some point we may be lucky enough to be taken to the realms of Light and shown the reality for ourselves. Many of us have been fortunate enough to have that happen. But guess what; we can't express ourselves any better for having had the experience, and in trying to, we use words that others may misinterpret. So the point is that you have to sense the energy and the spirit behind the words and not just jump at what the word typically means to you.

Again, you know I love you, and I love your expression and your heart, but I truly don't get where your reaction is coming from. There is a great fear in it which I think is entirely unfounded.

Peace all, Lee

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